Words can't help. This is the kind of passage that I believe requires initiation. Rob: you're absolutely right about the logical meaning of music. Music is both the most physical and the most abstract of all arts. Go rollin' in I don't care that much for the tempo and conducting style of the Germans but they tend to have the best soloists (Suzuki's weak point). They then repeat this again. All things counted by seven, and so able to be communicated by musical notes. Suzuki is fantastic (as is his mentor, Koopman). you must go to meet him! They'll probably cook Translation of 'BWV 244 Matthäus Passion 1. For example, how could a city like Leipzig field such a large ensemble with music making such demands on its members? I have found that there are only so many times one can listen to a pop tune before the thrill is gone. 11 Kommt heraus, ihr Töchter Zions, und betrachtet den König Salomo mit dem Kranz, [] mit dem seine Mutter ihn bekränzt hat an seinem Hochzeitstag, am Tag der Freude seines Herzens! The piece is in Em but performed one tone lower, presumably to accommodate the boys' vocal range. Er kommt, er kommt, Der Bräutgam kommt! Mozart could worship at the altar of Bach, Handel, Haydn, etc. i'm a hopelessly remedial student, but it's still much appreciated. In my opinion I think it is the best section of the whole piece. als wie ein Lamm, sehet, Was? Herreweghe probably has the fewest weaknesses: great soloist, great "swing," great drama. At 5:07 the ripieno chorus sings the legato section whilst the main choruses sing the same staccato section over them. They're all Bach scholars. Wunderbar das Solistenensemble Popp, Lipovsek, Büchner, Holl: Besser kann man Bach nicht singen: Hohe Textverständlichkeit bei stets gefühlvoller Anteilnahme und Intensität, keine Manierismen! I can still listen to "Idiot Wind" but "Yesterday" makes me yawn. Jesus is dead and the daughters of Zion (ie, the Church) are called to share the choir's mourning. Chori „Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klage“' by Johann Sebastian Bach from German to Spanish Others speculate this large orchestration was only in Bach's dreams and the ensembles were much smaller (which would be more realistic). View Download PDF: Chorus: "Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" (BWV 244 No. Oh when those tanks Ihr Interesse gilt dem Fortbestand des Clans. We survive. Hohelied 3:11 Schlachter 2000 (SCH2000). 1) for Winds & Strings (30 pages - 432.68 Ko) 365x⬇ CLOSE Now that you have this PDF score, member's artist are waiting for a feedback from you in exchange of this free access. seht die Geduld, seht, Wohin? Or another JADAM scream Herreweghe is probably my favorite (his 2nd recording in the late 90s). "Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" (Come, you daughters, help me lament) is a musical Agnus Dei and starts at the end. Dort, sehet, kommt er hergegangen. Straight away you can hear how complex the melodys are and how all the sounds from all the instruments literally merge together. But still.... a Hungarian friend told me that everyone who speaks Hungarian speaks perfectly (b/c no one takes 2 years of Hungarian). It's like an engine revving up. You can complete the translation of ihr kommt given by the German-English Collins dictionary with other dictionaries: Wikipedia, Lexilogos, … To this day, every time I hear the SMP I discover nooks and crannies I'd never noticed before. I just shrugged my shoulders because I didn’t have any good reply to that. O guiltless Lamb of God, Slaughtered on the stem of the cross, Always found patient, Bach's St Matthew Passion: 1st chorus: Kommt, ihr Töchter. 0:00-0:22. Translate texts with the world's best machine translation technology, developed by the creators of Linguee. ", Meanwhile the other choruses are still telling us about the weeping daughters of Zion. - seht die Geduld, See – What ? Linguee. And it's been only 7 minutes. Then... 5. at 2:14, the most breathtaking contrapuntal construction I've ever heard in any vocal work. File history Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. Another person told me that jazz made her dizzy. Actually I realize now that I associate lots of pop tunes with particular events in my life, but I don't have that kind of immediate association with jazz/classical. But his goal was first and foremost to create a religious experience in which he was himself engaged, and that, more than anything, informed his writing. Sehet, - Was? Chazelle--you really get it. (Behold!) Yes it is difficult to convey the excitement of listening to good jazz. Bach: St. Matthew Passion, BWV 244 / Part One - No.1 Chorus I/II: "Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" by Wiener Singverein & Chor der Deutschen Oper Berlin & Knabenstimmen des Staats- und Domchores, Berlin & Berliner Philharmoniker & Herbert von Karajan on Amazon Music. The bridegroom, see him, how? It is said to be the greatest peice of sacred classical music ever written. I am not sure how much the musicians pay attention to the meaning of the words. which is the climax of the this chorus in St Matthew Passion. Oh Zion! But they still don't like it afterwards, that's it. Sure, Bach also had the French and Italian masters to learn from, but no artist in history ever so towered over his elders. And still others have told me they like melody but they don’t hear any melody in jazz. English Translation of “Tochter” | The official Collins German-English Dictionary online. Oh Zion! als wie ein Lamm, sehet, Was? Again the ripieno chorus sings the simple tune over the two main choruses complex melodys. I spent a lot of time on this! Translation of 'BWV 244 Matthäus Passion 1. It's like a fractal line: the more you look, the more you see. then the sopranos and tenors in chorus 2 repeat "Wohin?" 1. But back in Bach's days, it was more like gospel music in black baptist churches, ie, it was an integral part of a religious experience. Töchter wollen «Einfühlungsvermögen», «facettenreiche Persönlichkeit» und «körperliche Attraktivität». Johann Sebastian Bach's St Matthew Passion was first performed on 11 April 1727 in St Thomas Church,Leipzig,Germany. As a lamb, see, what? Come you daughters, help me to lament, see, whom? Maybe some are interested by the counterpoint or perhaps someone else is enthralled by the beautiful melodic lines of Bach’s music. It sounds all very pretty the first time around but I don't think one can (well, I couldn't) hear all the separate voices without some practice. In some bunker Den Bräutgam zu empfangen! Only the experts do it. Then chorus 2 sings "Wen?" And the more I hear the music you have posted, the more beautiful I find it. 5:33-5:55 The ripieno chorus sings the words "Sonst müßten wir verzagen" in a of major melody which tne leads into sad and sorrowful sounds whilst the other main choruses sing the staccato section from before then join the ripieno chorus in the end of that phrase. A Major 6 chord sounds at rest while the E minor 7 wants to resolve. There are 2 main Choir's, the Orchestra and the soprano ripieno chorus. (Where?) Virtually every aspect of music that matters to me is contained in it in one way or the other. So two different people might enjoy the same piece of music but not for the same exact reasons. Denn nach langen zehn Jahren kommt Isabella Swan wieder in ihre Heimat zurück. Go rollin' in The takeoff at 0:23 climbs up the scale of G. Hold that thought. Or a rain of Willy Pete Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe In euer Mutter Haus. Even Dylan eventually gets dull. Notice that at 3:02 the ripieno chorus holds onto the note for a long time which holds the piece together. I'll write it one note per beat: 4. 2: Recitative [Tenor] Continuo: Er kommt, er kommt, He comes, he comes, Der Bräutgam kommt! Was the musicianship just so much higher than now? And to do it right, one must train children to participate in this musical complexity. Wacht auf, ermuntert euch! go rollin' in Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, You daughters of Zion, come out, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe he hastens his departure from on high In euer Mutter Haus. Oh Zion! Notice that at 5:23 the orchestra goes into the original key. ... Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe. Find more German words at wordhippo.com! You may only read this site if you've purchased, Posted by: Mike Meyer at June 21, 2009 12:04 AM, Posted by: Not Exactly at June 21, 2009 12:19 AM, Posted by: Guest at June 21, 2009 01:28 AM, Posted by: Rupa Shah at June 21, 2009 10:54 AM, Posted by: Rupa Shah at June 21, 2009 11:47 AM, Posted by: Bernard Chazelle at June 21, 2009 01:43 PM, Posted by: Bernard Chazelle at June 21, 2009 03:30 PM, Posted by: Bernard Chazelle at June 21, 2009 05:19 PM, Posted by: techno at June 22, 2009 12:47 AM. 1:27-2:13 Chorus 1 starts singing. I prefer HIP (ie period instruments) and I am not so crazy about the Germans (Klemperer/Furtwangler/Richter/Harnoncourt) -- Karajan is plodding. If it points to everyday life experience, ambiguity is its essence. 3. You may say it's no different from poetry. File history Click on a date/time to view the file as it appeared at that time. Kommt ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen, sehet, Wen? Look up words and phrases in comprehensive, reliable bilingual dictionaries and search through billions of online translations. The following video clip helped to do that ( may be, it was because how the three choruses were distinctly separated and one could separate their voices). Hopefully it'll entice them to listen to it. 4 Wenn nun das Halljahr der Kinder Israel kommt, so wird ihr Erbteil zu dem Erbteil des Stammes kommen, da sie sind; also wird das Erbteil des Stammes unserer Väter verringert, so viel sie haben. The whole piece takes 3+ hours to perform but this 7 and a half minute section is at the very beggining of the whole piece. With only 3 more hours to go! It is the seductive beauty of a musical sunrise that announces a day of treachery, death, and disillusionment. - den Bräutigam, Sehet ihn - wie? This creates the effect of chorus 1 asking a question and everyone in chorus 2 wants the answer to it! I find this even more frustrating with jazz, because sharing one's excitement is so difficult. Er kommt, er kommt, Der Bräutgam kommt! In euer Mutter Haus. The orchestra plays a staccato version of the last section. I take these convulsions of sorrow to be Bach's way of saying that the Crucixion may ultimately spell salvation for humankind, but one must never forget the horror and human pity of the event itself. Bach's St Matthew Passion: 1st chorus: Kommt, ihr Töchter. It should read "BEAUTIFUL"! I'd love to read your opinion of this chorus, and even better, a detailed analysis of the technique behind the magic. The dirty little secret about the Baroque era is that it is among the poorest musically. Ah, but words have meaning while notes do not: if a poem is a message then a song is a massage. Der Bräutgam kommt, der einem Rehe Und jungen Hirsche gleich Auf denen Hügeln springt Und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. 0:10-1:26 The piece starts with a sad and serious feeling to it because you can hear the low drones from the church organ. This is up to your usual excellent standard. The new one (which has been quiet until now) breaks into a soprano chorale (the kids with the red gowns): meaning "O Lamb of God, innocent, slaughtered upon the cross's branch. Welcome to a Lutheran Good Friday. 3 With Reverso you can find the German translation, definition or synonym for ihr kommt and thousands of other words. Der Bräutigam kommt, der einem Rehe. Das der Töchter zeigt Richtung Bett. den Bräutigam, seht ihn, Wie? I don't see how my post can make anyone understand the SMP, because to understand it is to love it. Der Bräut’gam kommt, der einen Rehe und jungen Hirschen gleich auf denen Hügeln springt und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. Oh when those tanks 3:32-4:44 This section has similar notes and rhythm to the last bit but the words are different (see the words at the top of this article). One person told me they didn’t like jazz because it reminded them of smoky night clubs. Really mean ps I had to listen to this piece several times to really appreciate it and specially the separation of voices from three choruses. Not at all a "recital." o Best SMP interpretations? The same thing is true of musical notes. It features two orchestras and three choirs! Unlike Coltrane's music, it is easily accessible, but that instant welcome is deceptive. I'll return to it. Which brings up the issue of intentionality. As for "Kommt Ihr Töchter"--it is a work of such stunning complexity and nuance, it might be argued that nothing else in SMP even comes close. Kant lived a life of stultifying monotony, yet he became the greatest philosopher since Aristotle. If someone associates jazz with a certain environment there is nothing you can say that might change that view. Bach - Matthäuspassion - 01 - Kommt, ihr Töchter (part 2) A single note by itself has no meaning. Ihr müsset ihm entgegen gehn! This happens alot in this section of St Matthew Passion. Is that the thunder's pound But with music it seems that love and meaning are inseparable. Did you ever wonder how air bumping against your ear drums can conspire to have such a profound impact on your emotional state? auf unsre Schuld, sehet ihn aus Lieb und Huld Holz zum Kreuze selber tragen! Then after all the tension and sorrow in this piece, it ends with a beautiful major chord. 3. It’s a mystery alright. Looking back, I think it was absurd to try to imagine the petty misdemeanors of a child were responsible for a crucifixion, but it probably wasn't so bad to learn that personal wickedness can lead to greater tragedies. But perhaps a better one is, Why not? (Behold!) Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen, Sehet - wen? Translation of 'BWV 244 Matthäus Passion 1. I am sure it's exhausting for the evangelist and the soloists because of the sheer length and difficulty. This first movement leaves you breathless and emotionally drained. - Ihr Töchter Jerusalems, [3.11] kommt heraus und sehet, ihr Töchter Zions, den König Salomo mit der Krone, mit der ihn seine Mutter gekrönt hat am Tage seiner Hochzeit, am Tage der Freude seines Herzens. Check out J.S. At 2:34 the ripieno chorus joins in singing "O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig Am Stamm des Kreuzes geschlachtet" whilst both choruses carry on singing the same words from before. -like a lamb! And to do it right, one must train children to participate in this musical complexity. Chori „Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klage“' by Johann Sebastian Bach from German to English (Whom?) In those bunkers Is that an Angel over head Oh Zion! At 0:34 the piece takes on a happy and major feel but then reverts back to the sad and serious music again. Johann Sebastian Bach's St Matthew Passion was first performed on 11 April 1727 in St Thomas Church,Leipzig,Germany. Dort, sehet, kommt er hergegangen. The opening chorus, "Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen" is also notable for the use of chorale cantus firmus, in which the soprano in ripieno crowns a colossal buildup of polyphonic and harmonic tension, singing a verse of "O Lamm Gottes, unschuldig". Ultimately, staying power is the measure of all art. Then chorus 1 answers them by saying "Den Bräutigam" (The Bridegroom) and that repeats. If Bach only wanted to write good music, it's hard to believe it would have been half as good. But there are tradeoffs. Der Bräutgam kommt, der einem Rehe Und jungen Hirsche gleich Auf denen Hügeln springt Und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. As always, entertaining and enlightening -- and extremely well written. So I have to assume it was incredibly draining emotionally. Which brings an intensity and a range of emotions he could not have gotten otherwise. Oh when those tanks Bach's 18th century Passion According to St. Matthew is exceptional for its musical richness and grand scope. At 6:35 you can hear nearly everyone singing the long sorrowful melismatic sequence. This call-and-response is repeated twice. Wacht auf, ermuntert euch! We now have three choruses competing for attention! You can complete the translation of ihr kommt given by the German-English Collins dictionary with other dictionaries: Wikipedia, Lexilogos, … I am hopeless. 1 Kommt, ihr Töchter.png. - als wie ein Lamm! At around 6:13 you can here the music building to the climax. Lyrics for Matthäus Passion, BWV 244: Chorus: Kommt, Ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen / Choral: O Lamm Gottes by Pieter Jan Leusink, Pieter Jan Leusink, The Bach Choir and Orchestra of the Netherlands, The Bach Choir & Orchestra of the Netherlands. Only once your ear can break apart the counterpoint can you appreciate why you're truly witnessing something very unique in the history of art. What does GAZA But who was Bach's musical hero? 4:45-5:32 This is where the piece changes. Behold Him, out of love and graciousness. - auf unsre Schuld; See – Where ? auf unsre Schuld, sehet ihn aus Lieb und Huld Holz zum Kreuze selber tragen! Immer der Loser Why? At 1:05 notice that all the instruments go up in a phrase that repeats itself many times. But it's hard to believe that a deeply religious singer (as no doubt they all were) could sing Erbarme Dich to a large crowd on good friday and remain the same person afterwards. Buxtehude. Words are very inadequate. It is said to be the greatest peice of sacred classical music ever written. For a version without that error, see: File:BWV 244 Nr. Another example might be when people ask “well what’s the difference between a G Major 6 chord and an E minor 7 chord?” They both contain the exact same notes and I think the best answer is that (other than the bass notes) you have to look at where the chord is in the progression noting the chords that come before and after. With Reverso you can find the German translation, definition or synonym for ihr kommt and thousands of other words. The ripieno chorus is usually sung by children but in this recording it is sung by adults. The whole good friday vespers would run 4 hours: 3 hours of music with in the middle a 1-hour sermon. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4Jecl_J1WQ. What is kind of interesting is that though the two chords share the same notes they have different functions. Only Mozart's music matches Bach's perfection, but Bach is more complex and more human than the Salzburg wunderkind. Again, what could you possibly say to that, how can you convey the excitement of a really great rhythm section and how it interacts with the soloist which sometimes seems like ESP. It goes on uninterrupted, drone-like, for 22 seconds! Der Bräutgam kommt, der einem Rehe Und jungen Hirsche gleich Auf denen Hügeln springt Und euch das Mahl der Hochzeit bringt. Translator. DeclensionTochter is a feminine noun. The two orchestras play together until the chorus kicks in at 1:11 with a radiant ascending arpeggio (E, G, B, E). Please show this to your friends who like music! Johann Sebastian Bach's St Matthew Passion was first performed on 11 April 1727 in St Thomas Church,Leipzig,Germany. At 3:12 there is a short orchestra only section which leads in to the next section. Can you recommend an SMP recording or two? And for musical notes it is the notes that come before and after a single note that give that single note meaning. At 6:17 the ripieno chorus sings "Erbarm dich unser, o Jesu!" Oh when those tanks By and large the same is true of the SMP. Emmanuel Music is a Boston-based ensemble of singers and instrumentalists founded in 1970 by Craig Smith to perform the complete sacred cantatas of J.S. Oh when those tanks He was at the absolute peak of his technical skills when he composed it. At 1:54, the chorus breaks into two for an amazing call-and-response between Orchestra 1- Choir 1 and Orchestra 2- Choir 2. "Penny Lane" will always bring me back to 7th grade walking in the school yard. Not to mention spelling stuff with the letters. How does that work? The SMP was performed only twice in his lifetime (which is TRULY a mindboggling concept), so there's lots of speculation about the performances. This just blows me away because for me jazz is full of beautiful melodic lines. On the other hand, I find this version a little too fast. Lutherans are more into the crucifixion thing than Catholics, so I believe that feeling the pain and the emotion was an essential part of the experience. Check out that low E in the bass. "Kommt ihr Töchter"). Oh when those tanks See him- How ? Oh Zion! As in the case of Coltrane, to appreciate the Himalayan heights of the SMP takes a little initiation. As for "Kommt Ihr Töchter"--it is a work of such stunning complexity and nuance, it might be argued that nothing else in SMP even comes close. 5 Mose gebot den Kindern Israel nach dem Befehl des Herrn und sprach: Der Stamm der Kinder Joseph hat recht geredet. Why does music move you? You better be hid As a lamb, see, what? If I walked up to you and said “bird” it wouldn’t mean anything to you but if I said “Look at that bird in the tree” then the word is imbued with logical meaning. You are right, people have to experience it or they don’t and who knows why? Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen, Sehet - wen? - den Bräutigam, Sehet ihn - wie? Yes, that's right, the immortal Dietrich Buxtehude himself! Oh when those tanks The SMP was Bach's 4th Passion. Go rollin' in As someone who endured those interminable Good Friday Lutheran services as a child, I am not certain we are into the crucifixion thing more than anyone else, but we ARE into the idea that all this historical brutality was because of OUR sins. Bernard, does rehearsing and performing the St. Matthew's Passion have the same emotionally draining effect on musicians and singers? Not sure why. 5:56-6:45 Choruses 1 and 2 sing the melodys similar to before. At 1:50 the singing is truly beautiful. "Auf unsre Schuld" again bringing the piece back into its original key. The ending is marvelous. Er kommt, er kommt (Turkish translation) Artist: Johann Sebastian Bach; Featuring artist: Peter Schreier, Münchener Bach-Orchester, Karl Richter. If Beethoven hadn't told us that his 6th symphony was "pastoral," honestly, who'da thunk it? A poem: SMP as Lutheran Gospel music. Chori „Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klage“' by Johann Sebastian Bach from German to French 2:14-3:31 Chorus 1 sings "Sehet!" 1 Kommt, ihr Töchter.png. Chorus 1 sings "Seht!" For a single word it is its use in a sentence that gives it meaning. After a brief instrumental introduction the chorus doesn't enter so much as burst in on the listener in a wave of grief that still startles, even shocks me with its power. Kommt, ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen, Come, you daughters, help me to lament, Sehet - Wen? No potty break. At 1:39, we have the melodic culmination of the chorus with a very simple, descending line. Is that lightening strike Oh Zion! This is a very enjoyable post. Oh well.). Sure, we can all agree that if a piece of music is to be mysterioso that it should be written in a minor key but that doesn’t really explain why a minor key is better suited for mysterioso than a major key even though we know it is from listening. Oh Zion! Performance: Cambridge King's College Choir / Brandenburg Consort directed by Stephen Cleobury. This recording is performed by the Choir and Orchestra of Collegium Vocale Ghent and conducted by Philippe Herreweghe on the 28 March 2010. All choirs and orchestras join together and swell in volume until that final Picardy third. The SMP is a palindrome and each movement is itself circular. A bit of a paradox, no? I’m always impressed with your musical knowledge. Oh when those tanks Music strokes, caresses, aggresses. Everything he heard or played left him cold. Nell, I can only speculate. Very much like language. If all you hear is a big wall of sound, then it sounds like fine Baroque harmony but you're missing a lot. A single note like a single word has no meaning. Stream ad-free or purchase CD's and MP3s now on Amazon.com. It is said to be the greatest peice of sacred classical music ever written. Ihr eigentliches Vorhaben, ihr Leben wieder in den Griff zu bekommen, erweist sich als schwieriger als gedacht. On the other hand, I've been listening to the SMP for four decades -- at this point, I can't resist mentioning that my first full exposure to the SMP, at de Gaulle's funeral, gave Nixon, Ben Gurion, and the Queen of England a chance to walk right by the young teenager that I was and who was then wondering what a marvelous place his native city would be if the PA system could blast Bach in the streets 24/7 as it did on that day. At the end of that phrase everyone sings smoothly creating a nice effect. Bach's St Matthew Passion: 1st chorus: Kommt, ihr Töchter. Ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe In euer Mutter Haus. Oh Zion! it's like... feel the vibrations man... :D. colors, vowels, deadly sins, chakras, days of week, bunch of shit in the bible. Basically the Classical/Romantic guys like vK don't get it. den Bräutigam, seht ihn, Wie? Oh when those tanks (The good Bach conductors do. Kommt ihr Töchter, helft mir klagen, sehet, Wen? I think the only thing I might disagree with is the idea that words have meaning while musical notes do not. The 18th century flute looks like this. Remember that, in German, both the spelling of the word and the article preceding the word can change depending on whether it is in the nominative, accusative, genitive, or dative case. The bridegroom, see him, how? Just as a poem is a collection of words with the right arrangement, so music is a time series with the right Fourier spectrum. -the bridegroom, Seht ihn - Wie? Professor, your love of Bach and music is endearing. Or put differently, if someone says to me that my favorite novel bores them, we can at least talk about the story and have a conversation. Oh Zion! But when you play the note F# as in the example of the descending line you wrote then F# is imbued with meaning just like the word bird. Go rollin' in I've always been especially moved by the final chorus, "Und da sie den Lobgesang gesprochen hatten." Schwiegereltern dagegen orthopädische Werte wie «Gesundheit» und «Einkommen». 2. Wacht auf, ermuntert euch! Den Bräutgam zu empfangen! At 4:20 there is again an orchestra only section. Or an F-18 - den Bräutigam, See-Whom ? This was sung only in 1742 and 1743–1746 and had been played on the organ before. That's why the words are so important. Die Streicher der Staatskapelle Dresden klingen schlank, aber warm: perfekt. Come you daughters, help me to lament, see, whom? Er kommt, er kommt, der Bräut’gam kommt, ihr Töchter Zions, kommt heraus, Sein Ausgang eilet aus der Höhe in euer Mutter Haus. then everyone in chorus 2 repeats it again! So by definition it cannot be bad. But nowadays it's treated as concert music. Bach's nested circles are a theological reinterpretation of time meant to shatter the linear ordering of past, present, and future. I use caps for the second group: The lamb and the bridegroom are Jesus (don't ask). Please excuse my typing error! Er kommt, er kommt, Der Bräutgam kommt! English words for Töchter include daughter and subsidiary. The SMP starts with a bang, probably the most stunning musical intro ever. Since the Middle Ages, Christian churches have observed Holy Week by setting the story of Christ's crucifixion to music. Oh Zion! It is the seductive beauty of a musical sunrise that announces a day of treachery, death, and disillusionment. -see his patience, Seht - Wohin? 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